it's not ok, Jim

Collin brings good news. Brandon has a rant. We question Jim’s discernment abilities.

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podcast, mobile recording, family trip, international travel, client acquisition, echidna rediscovery, Captain Cook, Kansas City Chiefs, stadium renovation, pirate treasure, sailor jargon, Captain Smollett, mutiny, dramatic irony, blueberry picking, blueberry processing, freezer jam, bagels, cream cheese, dehydration, baking sheet, parchment paper, freezer space, bagel history, Lake Part Two, annual event, pancakes, muffins, Susan's book, live meeting

SPEAKERS

Brandon, Collin

Collin  00:04

Foreign Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast where we try to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon and Collin on this week's show, it's not fine. Jim Ahoy, Ahoy,

Brandon  00:21

what's going on? Not a lot. How are you

Collin  00:24

I think I'm fine. I'm trying to remember where all of my buttons are. I'm doing mobile recording right now. Oh, so hold on. Put here. My levels are very off, and I'm not in a good position because I forgot to test this before I jumped on so it's finer.

Brandon  00:46

Sound fine over here to me. So that's okay. I'm sure

Collin  00:49

it's fine. Sure nothing could go wrong. No, of course not.

00:59

Oh dear. This is all gone wrong.

Collin  01:03

Really, really, it really has just, don't have enough on my my mobile recording studio. Sorry for all the mic noise. There's just no room for anything. I'm so proud. Here's a lot of my noise, but it's fine. It's fine. It's the fully work people. Oh yeah. They go, um, Nope,

01:24

it's fine.

Collin  01:26

Oh my gosh. Um, your dad's, where are you? I am? I am a dad's, uh, out in a out in the woods somewhere. You know what? You know what? How this week has gone. I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised if, if I was recording, I did think for a minute I am going to have to record like, tethered to my phone on the side of a road. One of these days, I'm just like, I hate trying to find more time, more time. Just like, Oh my Oh, my goodness, I I have a suggestion for next year when we decide what, what time to do the family trip. Oh, not, not end of June. That's just all I'm gonna say. Not, not, not sure i

02:15

Okay, but

02:16

that will we only

Speaker 2  02:20

did. Sorry. This is my fault, right? Because I'm going to be gone. I know July

Collin  02:28

international traveler over here,

02:30

my bad, yeah, so

Collin  02:34

sorry. Oh, my gosh, no. It's fine. Just I last it's also not good. Like last year, June was down for us, like it was a dip in a month, as far as, like, busyness and stuff. And so I really didn't think that there would be much of an issue. And then all of a sudden it was like, dear Lord, what a surprise what is happening right now in my life,

Brandon  03:08

which really is quite weird. Like, I don't know. Like, are these people going, I gotta,

Collin  03:14

I don't know. And like, that's the thing, too. Of it's not even, it's not even, like, it's all these new people that are that we're getting. It's all of them. I all of my old clients who didn't use me at all last year are like, oh, yeah, about that. And we're getting our annual it's our, well, that could be too Right? Like, didn't do anything last year, right? So this year they're gonna do a thing, right? Like, that's how we do stuff. Like, every, all the time, so every couple years, right? You got to go. So, like, maybe that's it too. Like, it just hit a certain type of way last year, and now it's like, oh, surprise, yes. Now other people are yes, we have now this like, we've grown our baseline over the last year of true clients, but we are now getting the our quote, unquote, annually reoccurring clients. Of like, every other year they come back and, boy, that's, that's I, I can't, I can't do that. We've had people who have been reaching out to us, who first used us four years ago, fell off the face of the earth. Haven't heard a so a sound from these people. And then they're like, Hey, I'm traveling in a week. I'm a previous client, and I'm like, blowing the dust off of my old records. Like, what? Yeah, you gotta find the binder. Like, who are you?

04:45

You used our service once. Five years ago,

Collin  04:50

I like I had one person who used this one time, okay, then a year later, they booked us. Yes, and they immediately then canceled. And we have a cancelation policy where, like, depending on when you book and how, you know soon after you cancel, like you get charged to some money. And they remember, they booked us one time, then a year later, they booked us and then canceled, and I charged them money, and they said, Well, I would think as being a reoccurring client, you would make an exception for us. I was like,

Brandon  05:28

mean, they are technically every technically they are repeat, repeating. Yes, right. Technically they are correct, right? Now, I think there's some semantics to be dealt with here, but some say are, in fact, the

Collin  05:48

strictest definition. They did come back, making him repeat, yeah. Anyway, I but I had my, my strangest, most high stress client acquisition yesterday.

Speaker 2  06:07

That's saying quite a lot for you. This one takes like, this is, I don't know that is a that is a loaded statement. I'm a little scared now.

Collin  06:20

This one takes the cake. Never in 13 years, never in 13 years have we done this.

Speaker 3  06:28

Okay, I got a call from a lady, and turns out

Collin  06:36

there is a familial connection with this person that didn't influence how we move forward, right? But this person called, allegedly, who's kidding? Like it's an old boy scout connection, ready for this? Wow. Okay, person who lives in Springfield, I'll just say that. Okay, that's fine. You can text me later. It's fine, okay? They called me and they said, hey, my good they live in Springfield. They said, Hey, okay, my sister lives in your hometown, so in the town that I actually live? Okay, yeah, we are both traveling in Florida right now. She had a neighbor in her apartment who was supposed to be checking on her cats.

Speaker 3  07:18

That was a week ago. The landlord came in today and the cats have not been checked on. Ah,

Collin  07:28

I talked I talked to my daughter in law, who's a vet in Springfield, and they recommended you to us because they knew that you served both Springfield and this other location. And I'm like, this is really niche already. Like, this is, yeah, this is, this is very confusing, right? Like, what is, what in the world is going on? Like, there is exactly one company who could solve your problem right now, and it is, in fact, mine.

07:54

It is I,

Collin  07:58

and, and, so I was like, well, like, put your sister on and call, talk to her, and she's, like, super freaking out. Like, obviously, because she just found out from the landlord that, like, that's fair, her apartment is maybe pretty trashed, yeah, because it's been over a week and the cats have not been touched, and she's supposed to be gone hoard until the end of the month. Like, oh, oh no, yep. And I'm like, Well, I literally have and it again, because of my town that I live in, everything is very close. And I'm like, I said I can be there in 10 minutes,

08:40

and I just

Collin  08:41

need to, have to, I have to. But also she didn't have a key for access, so thankfully, she called me while her landlord was still in his office, so I could go over there talk to them. Yeah, get the key access. Yeah, I'm an emergency guy. Hooked me with her permission, and he's like, who are you? Like, why? Are you here? Like, where are you from? Like, solver, I'm here to take it out of the way. I'm here and I spent, yeah, I spent two hours cleaning. Oh, my goodness, and I didn't even get done. Oh, my God.

09:27

Wowzer,

09:28

yep, yep, and,

Collin  09:31

and, and, you know, and then she I'm like, Well, look like I just told us that here's the plan, like, here's what we do. I'm going to come over, I'm going to do a deep clean get everything set, because right now, your cats aren't happy. They're stressed to the max. Their home is not clean and they have no food, so I have to come in and get it up to a point where they're going to be comfortable to use the home again as their Wowzer. And then I said, and then after that, I'm going to come over. We're going. Come over every single day. And even with that, the person was like, well, like, it's okay if it's not every day. And I'm like, Look,

Brandon  10:08

this is what happened already once. That's not how we roll around here. And that

Collin  10:12

was the other thing. She was like, Oh, well, my neighbor is such a nice person. And I could not stop myself. Clearly, they're not, I said, I said, before I realized, I said, and look where that got us. Was like, I mean, fair, that's fair, right? Like, Oh, yeah, so I I'm like, Look, we are coming over every single day, and here's what you're going to get from us. And I went over, I sent her 75 photos my first visit, with four walkthrough videos of various aspects of the apartment, showing her, like the before and the after, and where the things were and how things were and how it was staged, and what I had found and like, what I had moved and what's over here, and where the cats are, like, just like, and I'm playing, I turn on the TV and here tell how's your pet tip, peaceful pet music, calm music for pets on YouTube. She's based out of Florida. She makes these 18 hour loop videos that just play calm music in the background, so you can play for your pets while you're gone. Yeah, just have sound. Just have sound, right? I'm playing that. She'd also set it to 80, with and auto on the fan. Oh, so

Brandon  11:33

I was like 80, I know you're gonna be gone, but like, they're still living things in your

Collin  11:38

house, right? Like 78 not 8070. And the fan is to run non stop to ventilate this like they were almost there. Was like, the kid, the water was all over the floor. They were basically, they were, like, one or two more days before they were out of food entirely, like, and I'm just like, I'm leaving this place, just like in shock of what I had just walked into. And I was even over again to there today, tag teaming with my employees. She was taking care of the cats and scrubbing bowls and feeding and scooping litter. I was using the thankfully, the client had a little carpet cleaner that I was able to go into. Like, yeah, individual spots. Shot it with what resolve, or whatever. There's the big foaming carpet spray, and then using the machine and going around and like, and still, like, I clean carpet, still for another half hour, spot treating stuff, not doing full carpet stuff,

12:39

but just little spots.

Collin  12:41

And well, you know, that's one way to get a client.

12:47

Yeah,

12:49

not the preferred way, I guess. But

Collin  12:51

no, not for anybody. And, and, honestly, like, if that had been in our remote area, like, if it's Springfield, like, I, we, I, couldn't have done that. Like, no and, and it was genuinely I had, I just happened to have, we had just dropped the kids off at art camp, and they have a three hour art camp window, and I'm like, I have exactly two hours before I need to then come back and pick up my kids from camp. So like, yeah, Wilder, let's do this.

13:24

That's nuts. Yeah,

Collin  13:26

yeah. Not recommend. Not recommend. So that was yesterday, and I was trying to get to bed. My brain was still in home detailing mode. That's how I went to that's I went to sleep at 1230 this morning. My brain still needed some soothing sounds, right? Need some Yeah,

Speaker 2  13:57

yeah. Like those videos of people that are just like you seen the walking videos, right? There's a dude. There's one. It's just like, they're like, really, really long, and it's just like they'll just be, like, walking through like a garden, like a park, or like walking through the city. There's some that I've watched before, like, to have because sometimes I do. I put a like, when I'm working, not that I work at home very much, but like, when I do, I, like, put my headphones on it just to have, like, a noise to, like, you know, distract. It's just like a dude, like, walking down a street in the city. That's it. That's all the video. Just like walking, I don't or like, a smaller town, right? But it's just like, ambient walking. Sometimes it's raining. Sometimes it's just like walking. And there's like, cars driving by and like other people walk away. It's like, one of those things, just like,

Collin  14:50

No, I have never heard of this before. I am, I'm, yeah, okay, oh, I am watching a walk through the forest with me, come fairies, come friends. Ones, let the magic begin.

Speaker 2  15:01

Okay, yeah, I've not watched that one. But like, I have even sometimes, like, when I'm reading a book, right, something that I do, I haven't done this in a while, actually. But like, if, especially if, Susan is working on stuff right in the apartment, so, like, we're both, like, I'm trying to read and she's trying to I'll put my headphones in and like, if it's a book that, like, takes place in an urban environment, right? You hit the urban background soundtrack, right?

Collin  15:30

Bang. The problem with these, this one, at least, is that there's cut scenes

Brandon  15:35

I don't want, no other ones I watched. It's just like a loot. It's basically just, like six hours of just like ambient looping. I Right, like,

Collin  15:45

I watched one. Oh, okay, okay, yeah, I watched one. What was this? We were in a we were in an Indian restaurant and waiting for our food. And they had a, they had a video playing of a guy who was walking across New Delhi or something like that. Oh, yeah. Okay, there you go. Yeah, yeah. And so I that's when you said, like you're walking in an urban Oh, wait, I have seen this. Yeah. There you go. So maybe some of that just noise, yeah, yeah. Here it is. It's an hour long. One, yeah, okay, this is good. It's in 4k It's a walking tour. It's just a guy with like, a GoPro strapped to his head. It's great. It just yet starts on one end. He just walks through the markets. Yeah, doesn't do anything, right? Yeah? You what? That's kind of sweet, right? Yeah, yeah. It's really neat. I want to include that, yeah, yeah, this is the one. Why didn't I? Yeah, yeah. Oh. And then, right? We were doing a study, a unit study, on the kids with with the kids, like global cities, and we were trying to show them, like, what life was like in different towns, right? Because it's weird. Oh, yeah, of the US. And so it was like, how do I show them some pictures? Soon, that's what I'll do. I need strap your GoPro to your head. I need to walk.

17:13

Here we go. What's up?

Collin  17:17

And so imagine, imagine I did that, right? We have the oh brother walking tour channel, and it's like Oslo

17:22

Copenhagen, Springfield.

Collin  17:29

This is go to the nature center, see, or the Greenway trail. Yeah? Do Here we go. Oh, sorry, distracting. Oh yeah. Anyway, so they all send us pictures. We'll hit them up. Yeah, absolutely no. We had shown them. I had gone back to this video to show them, remind them, like, Yeah, this is what life is like in New Delhi. So, yeah, that's really neat. Yeah, I definitely needed one of those. And Megan asked me the other day. Well, I asked her technically, and then I said, How do you fall asleep? And I just tried to describe her how I fall asleep. And she said, I think that's in a textbook somewhere for doing. But like, Chris. I said, How do you fall and she's she, she is one of those who will watch a video until she falls asleep. And that's how she falls asleep, that's and I'm like, but what are you like thinking about? Like, what's going on in your brain? And she's like, I'm just watching the movie.

Speaker 4  18:39

That's the point of the video, right? You not, right? That's what I do. I have to have, like, uh, usually I turn the TV, like, just the TV is just on to, like, something, usually something innocuous, like cooking show, or, like, random Law and Order episode, or, you know, like, nothing, like, super interesting, right? And it's just, like, you just close your eyes and you just listen to the thing,

19:01

boom, I

Speaker 4  19:02

sleep. Like, that's how it works, usually, not all the time if I go to sleep, especially now in the summertime. Like, if I try to go to sleep and I can't, I just get back up again. Like, we're not even we're not ready, we're just down. I'm not gonna sit here and be grumpy in bed. Nope. Get back up, go read, do something else, whatever

Collin  19:23

I will. I will tell you how I do this, and you let me know how weird this is. This

19:29

is gonna traumatize me. Isn't

Collin  19:32

No, I'm laying down. I have to have there has to be noise on, like a fan going. Has to be cold, okay, obviously, cold room,

Brandon  19:40

ambient ship sounds. That's what I need for. Oh, there we go.

Collin  19:49

The sounds of rigging on the high shadow, yes, hammocks. It's basically what it is. I think this is just how. My brain is wired normally during the day is that it races and I might I it's hard to slow down, and so never would have guessed that I know right? And so when I go to fall asleep, I have to put myself in a situation and scrutinize over every detail of everything that's going on. So it's not like it makes

Brandon  20:27

going to sleep the most stressful thing. No,

Collin  20:30

no. So here's what I typically do. I typically start at the top of Dad's driveway, and I walk down, okay, I'm understanding, okay, right? Okay, you're focusing on other things, right? Yes, okay, that's what I'm doing with the law and order episode, okay, listening to the sounds instead and hyper like, visualizing everything around me, like, where the trees are, where the grass, how the grass is moving, like, what, what are the clouds going on? Like, like, putting myself in real time in a situation, and that is what will ultimately put me to sleep.

21:10

Yeah, that's kind of weird.

Collin  21:12

Well, that was the silent work that followed when Megan said,

Brandon  21:18

whatever I mean, like, I don't like to, like, I don't know that would be good, I guess, if you're in a place where, like,

Speaker 4  21:25

there's no sound, right? Because I don't like that, right? Oh, there's like, no, it's like, just dead quiet everywhere. Like, I can't deal with this. Like, what is happening? Like, no, like, I need something. Like, when I was a younger I used to, like, have the radio, right? You know, similar idea, just like the radio on, like, but like, barely on, you know what I mean, like, mega quiet,

Speaker 3  21:50

like that. Just have some kind of something, right?

21:55

Because, right, like, it was too quiet. It's annoying,

Collin  21:57

yeah, no, I haven't got to have that white noise going, for sure. But I used to be able to fall asleep to podcasts and like that kind of stuff. That's just talking. I can't, I can't anymore. Now I listen. I want, well, yeah, I'll even go back and listen to old episodes, ones that I know I've heard before, just like, and have it on real low. But yeah. Then I'm like, No, my brain is attuned, and I am listening to this, and I'm That's true, yeah? And I can't, I can't have words, no words, nothing moving. So that was that evaded me last night for a very long time. But here we

22:35

are, that's fair.

Brandon  22:38

Yeah, I had the opposite, like we had like I am at the point now where I like, I'm not going to like, I have always struggled just like, going to bed, right? Like, I don't go to bed at like, I know people, my friends, are like, Oh yeah, I'm getting ready to go to bed. It's like, 10 o'clock. I'm like, bro, what?

Speaker 4  22:57

Why? Whatever. Like, Susan goes to bed much earlier than me, so I'm just like, up, right? I'm always been like this, just up, right? Well, now it's summer, so it's, it like, exacerbates and gets worse very quickly, because I don't have to get up at six o'clock in the morning, right? So I'm up all night or whatever, not all night, but like, I'm up late and whatever, and then, like, but for the past two days, Susan's had to get up early

Brandon  23:21

for doing stuff like she's been doing, like, garage sale stuff with like, one of her friends, like, you know, just

23:25

Yeah. And so

Speaker 4  23:28

the past two days, she's been up at like, five o'clock and I'm like, I can hear her going about her day, right? She says she's being quiet. She

Collin  23:38

can hear me right now, probably, but she's not as sneaky as she thinks she is, right? She's like, get up brain or whatever. Like, fine, but it's like,

23:49

so all day I just feel like

Collin  23:53

I'm very tired. I didn't sleep, and

Brandon  23:59

then I was asleep, but then I cut up early under not of my own version.

Collin  24:03

It's fine, you could say under duress. Yeah,

24:15

it's fine duress when she comes

Collin  24:17

in here, oh, here's COVID. Hi. I can hear you. Anyway, yeah, this, this week has been a lot, but I found, I found some good news articles did that I wanted to bring up, Wow, I love good news. All the world is only full of bad news currently. So so other people may have heard of these already, but that's fine. I don't care. First good news, and I'll include links and show notes attenboroughs Echidna was rediscovered. Covered by using indigenous knowledge with camera trapping. Let's go a once thought extinct Echidna on New Guinea is now no longer extinct and has now been found because of basically, they talked to people who live there, and they said, Hey, is this still around? And they went, Yeah, it's over there. Yeah. And then they set up a camera,

Brandon  25:24

okay, like, it's fine. This does happen a lot in places like New Guinea, right? Because, like, you, I want you to people in the United States, right? International listeners may have a different perspective on here, like people in the US, you think, like, oh, yeah, you know, I've been to a place where there's no people you know, like Wyoming, right? No, no, no, no. You know New Guinea

25:48

is nuts. Like, how

Brandon  25:50

you for sure that something is not alive somewhere in the middle of a forest in New Guinea, right? I know, yeah. Like, come on, you. It's very difficult. I feel like to be like, Yes, this is absolutely extinct.

Speaker 5  26:05

What? But is it right?

26:10

Like, well, where does it live? Well, it lives in New Guinea,

26:13

bro, no, it right, I don't believe

Collin  26:18

you Yes, yeah, and that's a good point, because it's also it lives in a narrow band in the mountains. And so they in, like, the remotest place ever, yes, yeah, absolutely, yeah. And so they just hadn't seen this in what did it say? Named after was described as a new species in 1998 after having been collected in 19 so just yesterday, one, it was just Yes, yeah. And basically, they had one, basically headphone one. And they were like, well, we don't know where this is, and we haven't seen it in 2020 they're like, We haven't seen this in over 20 years, but they deployed cameras two years ago and found it. And I love how they like one of the shots is, is of the echidna walking away, and the way it lifts up its its foot, they get a full picture of its pad, and they can and they can, and that was one of the key identifying features of the bottom of its foot. I'm like, now that was a very fortuitous shot, because no

27:31

planned perfectly.

Collin  27:34

You know, they could be like, to the left, please. Yeah. So this made me very excited, because echidnas are freaking adorable. Do love echidnas? Right?

Brandon  27:47

I think they're adorable. Yes, I think that's generally my go to answer when people because, like, in the elementary school and middle school setting, like you were often asked questions like, What is your favorite animal? Oh, yeah, right. It was just a thing that kids ask you, like, out of the blue with no context or background, they'll just ask you this question, so you got to be prepared. And I think Echidna right, is definitely one of my go to answers Number one, because I find them fascinating. And number two really catches people off guard. And I was like, what? And not expecting that, no, not expecting you to say, Bill Echidna, right? They're not ready for that in their life. So that is the other reason I like say that, because it's really funny. It's good,

Collin  28:31

yes, yeah, and they're just so cute. And I learned in this research paper that echidnas, they they feed by poking their nose in the ground searching for invertebrates. And this is the long nose echidna. Yeah, those are called nose pokes, and that's adorable and good name. And they can look for Echidna activity by identifying nose pokes in the ground, and I just, I love that so much. That makes me really happy.

Speaker 4  29:07

So the real question is, what do Australian scientists call them? Because we know that it has to be a shorter version of that, so they're probably just gonna, I was a pokey tracker. Like, that's just like,

Collin  29:23

something crazy. Sorry for the bad accident, ladies and gentlemen, it's true. Perfect. Yeah, know that. You know it's true. So, yep, you know you can't deny it. So don't try. Don't try. So that was my, my first bit of good news, and then not but three days ago. But wait, but wait, if an echidna, we're not more enough Captain Cook's HMS endeavor. Oh, I saw that found in the waters off Rhode Island. Yeah. What I absolutely love about this is that in the article, it does admit. That's what, like, 30 or 40 years ago, somebody was like, it's probably over there, right? And then they just, like, never got around to never got it, yeah, to it. And there it is. We've found, and that's, that's

30:14

pretty crazy. I'm

Collin  30:16

very excited about this. Yeah, good old Captain Cook. Yes, yes. So found the endeavor. Oh, yeah, so that's pretty sweet, yeah. So that was my other good news. It was good news, right from this week, right? I only have more things to rant about this week, right? I have Brandon's rant of the week, right? So, so I know

30:43

it's a lot of political

Speaker 4  30:45

mess going on in the world, but I do have a somewhat political topic to talk about. I want to talk about the Kansas City Chiefs, right? I want to rant about this nonsense for a minute, right? Just minute right in the gall of professional sports teams in the United States, right? So international friends, I do need your help to understand. I want to know if there's like a difference, if this works differently other places, right? I need to know how this works.

Speaker 3  31:16

But currently, the chiefs are whining because their stadium is not like new enough, right? Granted, is Chief stadium old? Yes, right? What

Collin  31:28

do they just want to renovate it so they can charge

31:31

even higher ticket prices for people?

Speaker 3  31:35

Yes, also, yes, right. So they've decided that they're like they want the people of Kansas City to pass a tax referendum to finance their stadium upgrade. This is garbage, right? Like what in the world the chiefs are worth somewhere, at least online rough estimates I found briefly by googling today, four and a half billion dollars right their renovations are going to cost somewhere around $1 billion and they want the people of Kansas City and Missouri to pay for at least half of this, yeah, the nerve

32:28

right. Then they talk about, like,

Speaker 3  32:30

oh, it brings economic, you know, stuff to the area, like that might

Brandon  32:39

be true, but that benefit is dwarfed by the benefit that's going

32:44

directly to you,

Brandon  32:47

right? Like, if the city's getting some money, you better believe the owners of the chiefs are getting even more,

Collin  32:55

even more money, right? There's all this like

Brandon  32:59

nonsense, right? Like, Oh, my. My least favorite part about, my favorite part about this, rather, is like, the people are like, Oh, move the Kansas City Chiefs to Kansas City, Kansas. First of all,

33:13

Ew, why nobody

Brandon  33:16

wants to go to the Kansas part of Kansas City. Okay, that's not, that's illegal,

Speaker 3  33:21

right? Second of all, like, like, it doesn't really matter that much, right? They're like, oh, we'll give you, like, many, many dollars if you move the entire stadium to the Kansas half of the border. Yeah, wait, what do you mean you're gonna give them money. Like, that's that no Hold on What? What? Exactly backwards discussion is happening here, right? Like you're already the chiefs are already gonna be using the infrastructure, the roads and stuff paid for by the city, right? You're gonna give them land and money to build a state like, what? What is this? Yeah, why would you do that? Well, and other other teams do this too. There

Speaker 4  34:17

are some owners that just, like, finance it themselves, because these people are multi billionaires, and if they want new stadium, they can just buy it, right? It's not like they won't even notice money's gone and be like, Man, whatever, but like, why? How is this the duty of a citizen who may not even care about football that is to pay for your ridiculous Stadium. This is why the Rams left St Louis, because St Louis was like, No, you're dead. No, no one cared that. Get out, right? Like, I

Speaker 2  34:56

know that for all intents and purposes, the Rams were a worst team. Oh. But, you know, still, right, they're leveraging this, like, ridiculous Super Bowl streak here, like, oh, that means we could get more money from these sucker taxpayers. I mean,

35:10

fans of the tea,

Speaker 2  35:16

they're just watching this unfold as, like, they argue about this in like, the State House of Representatives, you're like, Guys, seriously, right now, like,

35:28

what? Right again? Yeah, it's

Speaker 2  35:32

not gonna fund the schools, but you're gonna give the Chiefs money. The Chiefs don't need any more

35:37

money. What do you stop it?

Collin  35:41

Well, and it shows the mindset of how these city teams or whatever are viewed as like a public good or a public asset, when in fact, they are private entities. And that is the distinction of Green Bay Packers. Well, okay, I know that's true. Over to the side, yes, okay, yes. But it's like, whenever we had somebody who came to us who wanted us to help them get a non profit off the ground, and then halfway through, they said, You know what, actually I'm going to retain and they were like, here's going to be the board structure. Here's going to be how we set up governance and all this stuff. And we're going to we're gonna we're gonna help fundraise, and we're gonna get community involvement to make this a thing. And Meg and I were like, yes, here we are. We're doing this thing. And then they went, actually, I'm gonna go ahead and just maintain control and ownership of this, and I'm gonna keep it a for profit for right now, but I'd still like to have all the volunteers, of the volunteers helped me get off the ground and contribute their efforts to make this a success. That's no and I remember going free labor, that's not but you're running a business, right? Like and now you're asking the community to help. Hey, yeah, you're a business. No, that's not how this works at all. Like you can talk about community mindset, and we're all a family here, and we're all about the like you can talk about that, but you're a business, and so if you want something as a business, you pay for it, right? Like, if you want to have the community director, you pay that person, oh, you can't afford them. Well, then you don't get, I don't get one. Sorry, yeah, right. Like, like, Oh, you want stadium upgrades. Then you pay for them. Oh, you can't afford them. Then you don't get the upgrades right, like, run your business better. And I just, I It's really frustrating when they're like, Okay, well now we'd like a handout from the citizens of the state and city to help us build this so that we can make more money. What I I'm really with you on this.

Brandon  38:02

These are the same people that talk about bootstraps and right like, oh well, you're poor. Well, you know, you should just work harder. If you thought about that, you thought about working harder, you wouldn't be poor.

Speaker 3  38:16

Bro, wait a minute. You want free money from the taxpayers in the government to put in seats. What happened to bootstrap bub? Where'd that go? Yep, yep.

38:34

And then I look at like, I don't know, like

Collin  38:37

any big project like that is going to have some sort of incentives, because then I think of the the Las Vegas I right that cost over a billion dollars to make. Yeah, for question mark reasons I don't really know, but, like, I don't know. I just You can go out and spend money however you want. Like, you don't just, if you have it, go ahead, but anyway,

Brandon  39:09

if I do that, and then I run out of money, and you go, Sucks to suck, loser, what do you do? Right?

Collin  39:15

You manage your house better, buddy. Yeah.

Brandon  39:18

Like, wait, wait, no, hold on. What is going on. So that's, yeah, that's that was always fun to complain about a little bit going on for weeks. And I'm just like, this is

Speaker 3  39:29

the most idiotic thing ever. So dumb. Why is this a thing that we're talking about a complaint is absolutely ridiculous. So yes, there you go. Sorry, that's,

Speaker 4  39:47

that's it. That's all I wanted to talk about today. Is poor usage of taxes, right? That's a, they go an actual, by the way, that's an actual political take. How do you spend taxes? Me, there you go. That's just in case you're curious. That is,

40:06

yeah,

Collin  40:18

well, we should move on to talk about,

40:21

Hey, y'all chapter,

Collin  40:22

wait before, oh, we move on. Yeah, we have to talk about our sea shanty.

40:28

We of the

Speaker 4  40:30

week. We do indeed boom now. Full disclosure, this is technically more of a sea song, right? Not so much a work song, but for fun song, right? This is Spanish ladies,

40:47

right? They go,

Speaker 4  40:48

I do not know this one. You don't know this one. You don't know the the farewell and to do to you Spanish ladies, farewell and ADO to the ladies of Spain. Boom, that one, right? I'm, I'm gonna listen, we sail for old England. We hope in a short time to see you again. Oh, yes, okay, right. So this song is at least from sometime in the 1790s right? That's when it was for one of this according to this, the first time it was written down. So maybe a little bit older, but

41:27

it was really popular on British ships, because they were like,

Speaker 4  41:31

so the British Army were going to like fight against the French. So they were traveling through Spain. Sounds like they got a bit distracted on their way to fight the French, right?

Collin  41:44

How did that end up again? I got a little sidetracked, right? Yep,

Speaker 4  41:50

right. So, so they wrote a song because they got sidetracked by all the Spanish babes, apparently. So that's what they nice, very popular song, but you might know this song. This is the song that Quint sings in Jaws. Okay, right, yeah. So if you know this from media anywhere, this is what, yeah, the Robert Charles character. He sings this kind of on the boat, like he just sings the first part of this line this song, right? So there you go. But that, that is our song of the week. Spanish. Ladies, nice. Okay,

Speaker 3  42:38

all right, now on to book action, right? We talked about, uh, let's see, I forgot to back up so we are headed out to the ship, right? We're we don't. Some time has passed since all of the last little bit occurred. We don't quite know how long. It just says the opening line says it was longer than the squire imagined ere we were ready for the sea. Now I don't really know how long he was expecting this to take, right? But it seems to me, as an uneducated sailor, that if you're going to get a ship, get provisions for ship, get a captain and crew for ship. This should probably take, like,

43:33

quite a while,

Speaker 3  43:36

right? And the squire seemed to think that, like, we'll be gone in a week. Like, I don't that's not how this works. Like, I think he's imagining that there's just ships out there. There's, like, fully crewed and ready to go. And if you just rock up and you're like, Hey bro, like to charter your ship, please? They're like, okay, cool. That's not how this works, right,

Collin  44:01

right? Well, this was, this was in the in the era where, where some of the first insurances were coming about for car and for ships and crew, for these kind of things too. So other people had your similar ideas,

Brandon  44:15

yeah, there's like, Let's go whatever. So there he Jim's like, hanging out, and he gets a letter, right? And

Speaker 3  44:24

this letter, not Oh, oh god, this

Brandon  44:29

was this bad foreshadowing, right here, ladies and gentlemen, like laid out right here, right? He sent a letter. He didn't know where the doctor was going to be, so he sent two letters to London and to wherever. Jim is right, he's like, this ship is bought and fitted and it's ready to go. But then, like, as we're reading this letter, it becomes clear that the squire has just told absolutely every. Everyone in the whole entire world, the plan

45:05

for the journey, yes, which is exactly the opposite

45:08

of what the doctor talked about.

Collin  45:11

Specifically, there's, there's a part here where he says, Dr Livesey will not like that. The Squire has been talking after all,

45:21

yes, it's just

Brandon  45:28

and, and it's like, oh yeah, I, it's great. I, I've, you know, by the merest of accident, we fell into a talk and, you know, just, it just came up, and this guy, he volunteered to go with. He even volunteered to help get some crew, because he knew some dudes to go in the Yeah, this is not

Speaker 2  45:58

like the squire is clearly thinking, like, this is great, right? This is a great thing. This is this is bad, right? This is, this is not good. And,

Collin  46:14

yeah, I was standing on the dock, wind by the merest accidents. Accident, I fell in the talk with him. He was an old sailor, right? Oh no, yeah, it's just, it's all gone bad. And, oh yeah, really liking this long john guy. He's the last leg. Oh, he also doesn't even collect a pension for a service. Can you believe that?

Speaker 2  46:36

Oh no, yeah. He was sailed with, with Hawk, right? With Admiral Hawk, right? You know, Admiral Hawk beat the French. So obviously he's a great British hero.

46:47

Yes, any but later on, yeah, down

Brandon  46:52

in the in the post script, right? Oh, postscript is ridiculous, right? So he's like, Oh, by the way, I forgot to tell you, the silver is a man of substance. I know of my own knowledge. He has a

Speaker 3  47:09

bank account. Yeah, there you go. He's got a wife. So,

Collin  47:16

no nothing suspicious here, right? No, my man, and, like, I think I didn't know if he was trying to say this, of like, look, he's basically, he's a stout he's an established, reputable man.

Brandon  47:31

Yeah, that's what he's like saying, right? He's got, like, a business and a bank account. He's married love.

47:40

He has good finances, right? Like,

47:46

I don't know,

47:49

it's just ridiculous.

Collin  47:53

And then the PPS,

47:58

oh, yeah,

Speaker 4  48:02

okay. Yeah, oh yeah. Mom exists. So go say bye, yeah. So it Jim doesn't

Brandon  48:09

really put it together until he sees like, he goes to see his mom, like he's talking to his mom, and they, they've hired, like, another guy to, like, help her out. And he's like, this is he's like, Oh, as an apprentice, this is when I realized I'm leaving right? Because there's some other random dude here, some of the random kid here to help out my mom, right? I had my first attack of tears. I'm afraid I led the boy a dog's life, for he was new to The Work, and I had 100 opportunities of setting him right.

48:38

Yeah. So, yeah,

Collin  48:40

well, it tells you where the attention is. He said before that. He said I had thought up to that moment of the adventures before me, not at all of the home that I was leaving, yeah, right again, of the where, where priorities are, like, where your head is and, you know, hot and heavy, ready for adventure kind of thing is all that he's been thinking about up to this point, yeah. He's like, Oh yeah, mom, right, dang it. And then after dinner, we're off,

Brandon  49:09

yeah, if we get, we get a nice, fast traveling thing. He like that. Guess they go overnight, because he's like, I wake up. And he's like, where are we, Bristol? Ah, how handy. Like, so we slept through. I love that the journey, right? We're here, we're here, and we're here. Boom, surprise. And it just so happens the doctor came from London last night, so we're ready to go. Squires, like, Woohoo. We're gonna sail tomorrow.

Collin  49:36

There was this line in here again. Now, rereading this in the light of like, okay, this is a coming of age story of okay, we're seeing a little bit of this, of the Oh, I thought of adventure and not of the home I left behind. There's another line in here that I thought was really poignant, right towards the end of the chapter, where he said, he's walking right. He's walking along, seeing all the rigging, people coming and going and everything. And he says, Though I had lived. By the shore all my life, I seemed never to have been near the sea till then. Yeah,

Speaker 4  50:07

right. He was like, I was he like, notices all stuff he talks about, I'm actually going to see myself in a schooner with a piping boat, Swain and a pigtailed singing Seaman to see bound for an unknown Island and to seek for buried Trish, right? So, yeah, he's kind of like, I've been by the sea, but my life has been the in, right? So this is like, a big like, even though, like, the scenery is familiar, like the life is not. So this is going to be some eye opening

Speaker 3  50:41

stuff here, right? So that is say, was there

50:47

anything else I wasn't talking about here? I don't remember.

Brandon  50:54

No, nope, just thing. Oh, right, I was gonna mention

51:02

that. Officially,

Speaker 4  51:05

right? This is the they're going in the by the way, the name of the book is the Hispaniola, right? Boom is referred to as a schooner, right? So officially, this means we have

51:20

multiple masts, right?

Brandon  51:24

Rigging on at least two masts, so it's a larger boat, right? So that is important, but just want to get my nautical vocabulary here,

Speaker 4  51:35

so we have four and aft sails, so multiple sails, bigger boat, that's a schooner, right? So I just want to make sure that we know that right. Because I want to get this right. I was watching a show the other day, and they were, they kept calling the boat the wrong thing. It was like a running gag for, like, the whole thing. So I just want to make sure, okay, sure, make sure we know what a schooner is, right. Because I'm not really sure boat vocabulary, ship vocabulary, sorry, thank you. Bit confusing. So I just want to know more. Two masts, sales, fore and aft, right? So there you go, boom, Scooter,

52:12

cast,

Collin  52:14

right. And then we get our Squires, sir. I cried, when did we sail? Sale?

52:21

Gosh,

52:22

everything again.

Collin  52:25

I love this so much.

Brandon  52:28

Oh, man. Now, yeah, chapter eight, we have even more foreshadow. Oh, my gosh. Oh, it's so bad.

52:35

Man like so they go right

52:40

next. It's next day. He's got to go

52:43

fetch the cook, right?

Brandon  52:47

So he's like, oh, here is the cook, long Mr. John Silver, at the sign of the spyglass.

Speaker 4  52:57

Again, again. This is some foreshadowing, right? What's the name of the mountain on the map of

53:04

the book? Oh, is it Spyglass matter

Speaker 4  53:08

yet? Anyway, we do know they talk about, no, I'm kidding. Jim talked about. Jim talked about, look, thinking about, like, seeing it, because he's studying the map. Yeah, so, or was that after this? I'm not really sure.

Collin  53:22

No. Anyway, he talked about how he had walked those

Brandon  53:26

hills and stuff, yeah, and the see the island from the spyglass, right? And so here we got a guy just so happens to know all about the sea and an inn called the spyglass. Coincidence, surely, right. Yeah, this is the part that's pretty ridiculous, right? So he goes in, and he does mention it, right? He sees, as I was waiting, a man came out of the side room, and at a glance, I was sure he must be Long John. His left leg was cut off close to the hip, and under the left shoulder he carried a crutch, which he managed with wonderful dexterity, hopping upon it like a bird.

54:01

Yes, Jim buddy, right? He mentions

Collin  54:09

it a little bit later, because he says, he says, now to tell you the truth, from the very first mention of Long John and Squire trailer when he's letter, I had taken a fear in my mind that he might prove to be the very one legged sailor whom I had to watch for so long, at the old bimbo. Yeah, but one look at the man before he was enough.

Brandon  54:29

I had seen the captain and black dog in the blind man pew, and I thought I knew what a Buccaneer was like, a very different creature, according to me, from this clean and pleasant tempered landlord.

Speaker 3  54:43

Jim. Three whole chapter, a crazy drunken captain was raving to you about a one legged man.

54:57

You had nightmares about this man. It, right? You see a one legged man, and you go, your first thought is, oh, he looks friendly. Brother, what?

Collin  55:14

Oh, look at the nice man, Stranger danger, Jim. What is? But Jim is getting

Speaker 2  55:21

abducted, right? His kid be like, he is going to the van with candy in it, right? Bamboozled is oh so bad, right? Like, so bad, right? He even, like, we even get this weird exchange where he's like,

Speaker 3  55:39

he's like, kind of being real terse

Speaker 2  55:44

and blah blah. And he's like, oh, excuse me, Mr. Silver. And he's like,

Speaker 4  55:50

Oh yes, boy, yes, of course. Like, it's like, he like, flips a switch, like he is.

Speaker 3  55:58

You can see in the writing that he's like, he's talking to somebody. He's being all like, rough and grumble and blah, blah. And then whenever Jim talks, he goes,

56:11

yes, yes, my young man,

Collin  56:13

quite loud and offering his hand as if to be, I don't know, a signal to somebody,

56:19

right? Yeah. Like, oh,

Speaker 3  56:20

Jim, you say good to see. Like,

56:28

like, pipe down, boys, it's Jim.

Speaker 3  56:33

Aha, right? And even, even even after this right,

Speaker 4  56:38

just in one of the customers at the far side, rose suddenly and made for the door. I was close by him, and he was out in the streets in a moment, but his hurry had attracted my notice, and I recognized him at a glance. It was the tallow faced man wanting two fingers, who had come first the admiral Bimbo, right? It's black dog just in here. Yeah, nonchalantly and, and then he's like, it's black dog and, and Silver's like, Who's that?

Collin  57:09

Yeah, all the famed

Speaker 2  57:13

what? Black, Black. What'd you say? His name was, again, black, black duck, black. Oh, Black

Brandon  57:18

Dog, right? Yeah, I've never seen that guy before, so weird that you would recognize him, but I I didn't know that he's like, now that I know that he's to

Collin  57:30

the guy who he was talking to, and he's like, did you

57:32

know it was this guy? Right? Yeah.

Collin  57:35

Guys like, no. Morgan, yes. More.

Speaker 2  57:37

Guys Like, did you know him? Morgan, no, You never did clap eyes on black. What's his name? Black bog before? Did you? No, no sir. Well, you didn't know his name. Did you well? No sir. Well,

Collin  57:52

my powers is as good for you, because if you had been mixed up with the likes of that, you would have never put another foot in my house. Yeah?

57:58

Like, no. Okay, and then he wants

Collin  58:05

to know what he was talking about. And it's like, keel, keel hauling. He's like, Paul keel hauling was, yeah, an amidable, suitable thing too, right? And then it's, let's see black dog, but I don't know the name. And then he send somebody to run after him, right? He's like, you know? He's like, Ben's a good runner for Seaman run better than Ben. Few seamen run better than Ben. He should run him down, hand him over by the powers.

Speaker 4  58:30

Yeah. He's like, Oh, I didn't see him. Like, well, guess he got away.

Collin  58:37

Yep. And then he says, he admits here, Jim says my suspicions had been thoroughly reawakened on finding black dog at the spyglass. And I watched the cook narrowly, but he was too deep and too ready and too clever for me, and by the time the two men had come back out of breath and confessed that they had lost the track in the cloud crowd, I would have gone bail for the innocence of Long John Silver,

59:03

duped, duped,

Speaker 4  59:06

duped. Right now, I know that both of us are sort of coming from this, like, we kind of know what's going to happen, right? But, like, I think right here, this is quite obvious, right? I think even if you didn't know what was gonna happen, this be like, this is some like,

Brandon  59:24

some like, dramatic irony, action going on where, like, you the reader, now know,

Speaker 4  59:30

yes, and Jim does it, right? So now there's like, a tension built here that you know something that Jim doesn't know you know more than the narrator, right? Now, right? And so now you're like, primed to be like, hold on, right? And you get some of the payoff of that already, a little bit in the next chapter, right? You get more

59:52

of that, right?

59:55

So do you have anything else about this

Collin  59:56

one? No, I didn't. I did. There's some weird joke that they kind of go. Into and now they're all laughing and making remarks, and there's, like, talking about what's going

Brandon  1:00:08

on here. The score, there goes, Yeah, I was like, Okay, anyway, I don't even think, but I don't think you're supposed to know, right? I feel like you're supposed to kind of not know what's going on, because Jim doesn't really know, right?

Collin  1:00:23

Yes, right, like, and he's just kind of laughing and going along with it to pretend to like, fit in, be one of the guys like, that kind of thing. So, and, yeah, but they're

Brandon  1:00:34

starting to use some, like, very heavy jargon, right? Like, this chapter we get very introduced to, like the speech patterns of a sailor, right? Yeah. And so I think at some points to Jim is not quite following what's happening, right? Because sometimes, like some of these sentences, right? Why? What a precious old sea calf I am. I'm sure that means something to somebody, not necessarily to me, so and definitely not to Jim, I tell you

1:01:06

that. So, yeah,

Speaker 2  1:01:09

like, we're getting a glimpse that this is a whole new world, right? Like, this is something very different from his end. Like this in he's in right now, very different from the admiral Bimbo, yeah, both near the sea the Bristol. No whole other kettle of fish right here, right?

1:01:30

So you were kind of getting some peaks

1:01:33

that this is a whole, whole deal,

Brandon  1:01:39

yeah. So then we get to our next chapter. Here nine, right? We talk about this, how this is, like, logistics chapter. It's pretty short, yeah, right. But we kind of, we've meet, we've met the captain now, Captain Smollett, and he's basically like, what in the heck is going on around here?

1:02:00

Yep, He is not pleased, right?

Brandon  1:02:03

And the squad is, like, we talked about everything's fine. He's like, what? Why are you doing it like this? Why are you going over there? Why is this guy sleeping in that guy? Why are they putting all the powder and guns over there by the crew quarters?

1:02:18

No, like, yeah.

Brandon  1:02:23

That's a red flag, right? He's very not happy with that. He's very not happy with a lot of stuff. Like, where, who are these people? How come I didn't get to choose any of this crew. This guy is shifty as heck, and I don't like him.

Speaker 2  1:02:38

Like, a lot of that going on, right? A lot of like, what is going on? Why are we doing this? I don't like this guy. I don't like any of these people, right?

1:02:49

But, you know, and

Brandon  1:02:52

the squire is like, Oh yeah, you know, you're right, and you are correct, but I'm you know, any offense here is unintentional. We didn't mean to offend you, and he's like,

Speaker 3  1:03:04

No, he doesn't like the Mr. Arrow, right? Whose job is? I don't

Speaker 4  1:03:13

remember quite what his job is, but it's a high ranking. He's supposed to be like an officer right now.

1:03:20

Here is, uh,

Speaker 2  1:03:23

the context I have of this, right? So he says, I believe he's a good Seaman, but he's too free with the crew to be a good officer. The Mate should keep him, Oh, he's a mate, right? Yeah, the mate should keep himself to himself. He shouldn't drink with him in before the mast, right? And he's like, You mean he drinks cries in squire. He's like, it's a turn of phrase, you idiot, and it's not what I mean. I mean he's fraternizing with

Collin  1:03:46

this mix up happens earlier, because the the captain also earlier, says, especially when he started the treasure, he says, especially when it has been told to the parent, and the squire says, Silver's parrot like no. It's a phrase about talking about those who talk. So we get some more comedic relief here, with thanks to

Speaker 2  1:04:07

the squire, but also a little bit of like, the theme of parroting is going to show up a lot here, a lot, right? But like, anyway, back to arrow, right? We get this. So my

Speaker 4  1:04:18

again, not a sailor, okay? Don't know a lot about this. However, I have some context for this, right? A little movie. You may have heard of a little underrated gym from the early 2000s right? Quickly, wanna talk to you about Master and Commander,

Speaker 2  1:04:40

Russell Crowe action, right? Which is also apparently based on a book series. I have read the first book, Master and Commander, kind of, kind of boring, right? Did not know this. Yeah, there's like a billion books. Apparently, I read the first one. I don't remember really loving it very much, but whatever the movie's good. I. Um.

Speaker 3  1:05:01

But in this movie, they have, like, one of the the ship's mates, right? He, um,

Speaker 4  1:05:10

struggles with being in command, right? And he is chastised by crosing, like, we can't be the friend, right? These people, the the crew need you to be a leader, yeah, right on it, because they're on like a naval ship, so stakes are a bit different, right? But you are in a naval ship, in an active war, right? Yeah, you can't be, like, being friends with people, right? You are not their friend, right? That's not how this Where's not the dynamic here, we're going for here, right? And so that's a whole pro it's a whole story arc in the whole movie. Is this guy struggle with that, like he wants to be accepted, but like he doesn't do anything to earn their respect, right? So they don't respect him and won't listen to him, right? So that's this guy. It's a little suspicious with me knowing that bit of knowledge, right? It's a bit suspicious that he would just be, like, super friendly with all the crew, right? Like, that's not and clearly clap the small is also, like, that's not how it's done. That's not how an officer behaves, right? That's not how it works, especially during this time, right? Like, especially in in the naval era of, like, the early 1800s or late 1700s when this book's supposed to take place, like, definitely not

Collin  1:06:29

been right? Like, yeah, they had, they had boundaries, right? They had roles, yeah, and they were supposed to follow them. And so basically, we now start seeing that the captains is expecting his ship to be run a certain way, and right here where we can see that

Brandon  1:06:46

that's that's not going to happen. That's not how it's working. And clearly, you know, part of this is because there's some things going on behind the scenes, but also part of this is because the squire is an idiot, right? And he doesn't know anything about anything. He just has the money to finance, right? But like, he thinks that that should make him be, like, in charge of stuff, you know, you that's not that doesn't mean you're expert in this field, right? You need to let the people that know what they're doing do stuff, right? And so, like, the captain is so upset about this. He's like, um,

Speaker 3  1:07:27

he also he's even he's, he was upset about all of these things. But he is the most upset because the entire crew knows that they are following a map to a buried treasure, and he didn't know anything about that. And he only knows about it because he heard the crew talking about yes, yes.

1:07:51

And so now he's mega mad about that, which

1:07:56

to be fair, fair. Yes, right, you should definitely

Speaker 2  1:08:01

right the hands know it, sir, return the captain. Well, that livesy, livesy, that must have been you or Hawkins cried the squire like, first of all,

1:08:11

no, that's no, right?

1:08:15

Every all nation is a admission, right?

Collin  1:08:19

Yep, it was Jim, yeah. Blame Jim for this holy mom, the guy who was out talking to all the these people, yeah, who was at home with his mom and slept on the carriage ride all over, yeah, definitely Jim, telling everybody got him, yeah, yeah. Wow. Not the guy who's been here in Bristol for weeks. No, no, it was Jim, definitely, yeah, let's get that.

Speaker 4  1:08:51

So, so he's he's not. The captain doesn't really have a good feeling about this, right?

1:08:58

I know he doesn't. He's not.

1:09:01

He's not into it. He's not liking this. So he's not

Brandon  1:09:05

so not into it that he wants to quit, exactly, right, right? Even bring it up. They're like, Do you fear like mutiny and that? And he's like, Well, no, don't talk that way, because if I did, I wouldn't go

1:09:20

but also

Brandon  1:09:24

maybe, like, we have seeds of doubt being planted here. Before the ship has sailed. We have a lot of seeds of doubt being sown that things are not going to go as planned, right? We have all this, this, this chapter specifically, is like, okay, Yo, look like this. And the last one right, when we have, like, the mysterious appearance of a one legged man who's totally cool and nothing suspicious and totally not bad. And then this chapter about, like, the outfitting of the ship, about how the crew is real, sus about how the crew knows a lot of information. That they should know about how the crew is conducting themselves, and why are they putting the guns next to the crew quarters and not by the captain, and which is to me as again, as a non Shipman, that seems a bit red flag,

Collin  1:10:18

especially knowing what they're after, right? And, yeah, yeah. So

1:10:26

there we go,

Collin  1:10:29

yeah, that's kind of that's kind of it.

1:10:31

So they do at least go rectify. They start moving the

1:10:34

powder to a different spot. There we go. Then they're getting ready to leave, right? So, ah, yeah, going well, yeah.

Speaker 4  1:10:52

So yeah, there are two chapters of like, Hmm, again. So we got some seeds sowing the seeds of doubt here, kind of some we should be wary on

Collin  1:11:08

our trip here. Yes, definitely, very, very wary, yeah. Oh, there we go, huh. So it's a good build up, though. Oh, it's wrong. It's great, because it is, it is the, you know, this is a trope where, again, where the the reader, the audience, is more in the loop and aware than our protagonist or the characters, definitely more than the squire. Oh my gosh, I do don't know anything about what's happening. But, like, more more than squire, more than Jim, more than the doctor, like, we all are, like, you're starting, we're starting to see where these characters are coming into play, and it makes those character interactions all the more, like frustrating whenever they do happen, because you're just like, Jim, could you not right or whatever? Why

1:11:57

you just blindly trust that dude with one leg for no

Collin  1:12:00

reason. Like, what are you when, exactly, when? Who knows how, long ago you admitted that it was keeping you up, and you were terrified of what it was going to be, and you pictured monsters and horrible men coming after you. And now you're like, saw

Brandon  1:12:12

what happened to Billy right? We saw what happened did? Billy Bones, okay? We saw this whole thing. And now you're like, Oh, this guy's so friendly and nice, right? Jim, why are you even trusting anybody in this situation? Right? Like we've seen, like, this is a very serious situation, right?

Speaker 3  1:12:30

Clearly, these the people like Black Dog and pew, right? They were definitely ready to just straight up murder Billy Bones for the map, right? And any information you knew, Okay? And then you're going, you've, you've been in danger. You were chased out of your in by a squadron of

1:12:51

villains.

Collin  1:12:52

They were going to come murder you too, right? Yeah, they're

Brandon  1:12:56

going to flee with your mother. Okay? The the townspeople were so afraid they wouldn't help you. Okay, and you're just going and just blindly trusting random people like

Speaker 3  1:13:09

Jim. Jim, okay, this is the most obvious like signal that this is a coming of age story. Is, Jim is like, Yes, man, like,

Brandon  1:13:25

he's not really getting it right now. He doesn't, even though he's been in extreme peril, he doesn't really seem to understand that he's still in peril, right? This is a perilous situation, not just like happy fun time, like the squire thinks it's like, happy fun time. Oh, we'll just go on a light, little sale and just go dig up some treasure, and we'll get all kinds of money. It'll be great, right? Like, that's kind of how the squire thinks about things. I think the doctor is a little more serious about it, but we don't really hear his opinion on a lot of things, because he's been gone right, right for most of this story so far. And we got Jim, who's just like, Yeah,

1:14:01

I guess it's fine. Jim, no, it's not fine.

Collin  1:14:05

It's not fine.

1:14:09

You've met like,

Brandon  1:14:11

let's be honest. Okay, so we know basically

Speaker 3  1:14:14

that Billy Bones is a pirate, right? You've met personally, face to face three pirates, right? One of them you tolerated, right? Two of them tried to kill you, okay? And this is not a good track record. Yeah, one of them kind of trusted you, but he was hiding from the other two. He was hiding from them, yes, and they were gonna kill you and him. So, yeah, let's, let's think about this a little bit, buddy like

Collin  1:14:58

problematic. No, we're. Working out people, it's not, it's not working at all. It's pretty rough stuff. So not the best judgment of character. We can say that. No, he really isn't. So Jim, we'll see what happens. Yeah,

Brandon  1:15:18

we'll see. We'll see what happens if he gets uh, see if he, uh, wakes up to this peril

Speaker 4  1:15:22

here, right? We'll see what happens. See if there's a some any more signals that he's totally missing out on. You mean, all of them, right? Every signal ever like,

1:15:41

oh, yeah, so we'll see how we'll see how it goes next time. But,

1:15:47

yeah, oh boy. This

Brandon  1:15:48

is a little hard to read, just because of that, there was so much irony. You're just like, Jim, what are

Speaker 3  1:15:53

you doing? Yeah, yep, wanting.

Speaker 4  1:16:01

Okay, overall is good, like, I like how we're building the tension, right? It is good because it's definitely like, Oh, we're definitely building to something here, because we can see just how, like,

Collin  1:16:14

poorly it's going. So, very Yes. Okay, well, I have a haiku. So let's go. Kick us off, lead us off here, inspired by today's events. Hey, Blue stained fingertips, morning, sun, quiet woods, a pail slowly fills.

Brandon  1:16:40

Very nice. I like that one, nice, good.

Collin  1:16:44

That's a reference to the blueberry picking that we went on. Yes, we picked 11 pounds of Oh boy. Well, so here's the thing, I am not competitive, except when I want to be and my wife is always competitive. And so there was, there was 100% an unspoken competition going on between us about who was going to get the most blueberries by the time we needed to leave. I won three and a half, over three and a half pounds of blueberries,

Speaker 5  1:17:17

which is a lot of blueberries, a lot of blueberries, a lot of blueberries. And

Collin  1:17:25

Lily, Lil would have had more had she just not been eating them off of the bush.

1:17:34

You still gonna pay for those Lily, when

Collin  1:17:36

I saw what she was doing, I was like, Honey, we have to pay for blueberries. Put them in the bucket, and she was like, they're just so good. I was like, after, after.

1:17:52

Weigh her before and after, right,

Collin  1:17:56

here's my daughter. Set her on the scale. I'll pay for whatever the difference is,

Brandon  1:17:59

yeah, before, before and after you got it together. Okay, yeah,

Collin  1:18:03

so processing 11 pounds of blueberry is a lot. It's a lot more. And then I realized, like, oh, what they want you to do is, like, wash them, allow them to dry, and then put them on a baking sheet lined with parchment paper, and put them into your freezer, allow them to freeze, and this is how you slowly batch through your I'm like, first off, I have a side by side freezer. This is not happening. There's nothing. It's fitting smaller trays, right? No, I wash them, let them dried, and then I put them in open bags in the refrigerator for several hours, which naturally dehydrates them, yeah, right. And then I threw them in the I'm like, I don't have time. I have to make some freezer jam, right? Very freezer jam, yeah, we've got recipes planned, but, yeah, it's a lot lots of blueberry

Speaker 2  1:19:03

pancakes in your future muffins for sure, right? So I made some bagels this week. Nice. I was reading a book I have. Susan got his book for Christmas while back. It's just called, like, the history of bagels, you know, whatever, like, I was just reading it. I was reading it. I was like, you

1:19:23

really want a bagel bagel?

1:19:25

So I made some

Speaker 2  1:19:28

perfect I was like, Hey, do me a favor. And would you stop and get some cream cheese on the way home, because I accidentally made bagels

Collin  1:19:38

today, so was not expecting this conversation to end with that statement. But okay, she was not mad at it, though. So, yeah, I mean, she was like, of course, absolutely flavor, yeah, nice seeing all right, okay, well, we'll do this again. Soon as I'll see you. Soon. See you soon. Ah, yes, live and in person. There we go. We'll do yes indeed. Okay, well, so stay tuned. Listeners for Lake Part Two event. It's our second annual. Yeah, it's you soon, love you, all right, love you. Love you, dear. Bye. You.